Comments on: How Far Is Too Far?

By: Folk Face

Folk Face — Thu, 14 May 2009 00:24:35 +0000

watcher likey da false equivalences

3rd grade public school = young adult on college campus

on public dime during curriculum = college campus free spech

to the extent that watcher is serious he is dangerously indifferent to the constitution.

i suggest he is just being provocative because he knows that Friends of Coal don’t belong in 3rd grade classrooms, or classrooms at any level. There is no honest or consistent justification for MTR under any name under any circumstances save the bogus argument of “property rights” which must necessarily include the right to infringe on other people’s property rights and also a nullification of the property rights of the state and federal government wrt to aquatic resources

cry baby

By: Denny

Denny — Wed, 13 May 2009 14:46:28 +0000

I would say this is a little different from the roadshow, Dave Cooper is not trying to influence 3rd graders. Not only that, the coal fields is the only place where you will more than likely find both opinions concerning mountaintop removal. To teach either one in school is just wrong. Regardless of which side of the fence you play on – you are trying to influence 3rd graders for crying out loud.

quotes from the article-

“As part of the program, third-graders were given a Friends of Coal bag with a pencil, pen, packet of crayons, and a foam lump of coal-all stamped with the Friends of Coal logo.”

“Coal is part of what makes West Virginia so special. I want them to think about jobs you know they might be interested in the future.”

“The “negative part” was not in the presentation. Peck says it’s too complicated for third graders.”

Wow!! You people are insane. Plain and simple. A foam lump of coal – lmao.

By: Watcher

Watcher — Wed, 13 May 2009 12:22:33 +0000

Denny Is this not on the same line as the Dave Cooper Moutain Top Removal Road Show who visit colleges all over the country influencing young minds and is Coal River Moutain Watch not planning to also form a carriculum with the Raliegh co school board. We all know this groups agenda and are they not also “activists” ?

By: Denny

Denny — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:37:52 +0000

I think we are not going to be able to combat that individually. There needs to be a revolution/uprising something major to squash the friends of coal in every level of government.

The cure for our friends of coal infestation is not going to come from West Virginia – but it needs to start here with a revolt. Force the federal government in here and it needs to happen before this summer is gone. Before the friends of coal can legally teach our children.

I can’t even begin to put into words how much the friends of coal in the classroom pisses me off. It’s just unbelievable. If a revolution/uprising/revolt happens, I will be on the frontline.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:36:30 +0000

Denny,
Very well said! A friend of ours was telling about the school field trip for her daughter, it was sponsored by the CEDAR program (which is another facet of the coal industry meant to indocrinate our school children) and among other things, the CEDAR program folks told about the wonders of coal, about how there was 200 years of coal left in the mountain, how MTR was good for the state and the people (and how some bad people from out-of-state are trying to stop it), and then the class was taken on a field trip to an active MTR site so they could see it firsthand, and see how good reclamation is. The trip was completed when the mine put off blast just for the school children. Of course, it impressed the kids, it was a loud blast that blew up part of a mountain.

Our friend was livid when she found out about the trip, it was supposed to have something to do with Coal Heritage, but it appears it was just about the wonders of coal and MTR.

How do we combat such ignorance and ingrained corruption in our schools, politics, etc.? Every level of government is corrupted by coal dollars. And you are spot on with your assessment of the talking head in the governors office, he’s as worthless as tits on a boar hog.

It is because of this that I am of a mind that any help will have to come from the outside, simply because politics is local & so is corruption.

It is up to us to raise hell, fight back and let the coal lobby/industry/politicans/groups that we won’t allow their crap to continue. You are correct, we need a revolution in the coalfields. Perhaps smarter politics is the way to go, and beat them at their own game. We have an opportunity to do this with the largely untapped (and anti-MTR) voting block in the eastern panhandle. That seems to be the only part of the state that isn’t bought and paid for by the coal industry (perhaps because that part of the state has no coal).

Any thoughts or idea’s on how to combat the government subsidized indocrination of our children under the guise of education?

Matthew